ok.. i downloading the 5.0 .. i love it.. but i am really pissed at my ISP ..they moved their entire email system over to google which for the love of god (please forgive the language) ...

now i have followed there install steps on google about what port to use and to have ssl enabled...

but i get this error :

Jan 2 13:39:38 zimbra postfix/smtp[26640]: 667398702E5: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[209.85.133.109]:465, delay=600, delays=0.17/0.02/600/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with smtp.gmail.com[209.85.133.109] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
Jan 2 13:39:38 zimbra postfix/smtp[26640]: 667398702E5: to=, relay=smtp.gmail.com[209.85.133.109]:465, delay=600, delays=0.17/0.02/600/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with smtp.gmail.com[209.85.133.109] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)
Jan 2 13:40:01 zimbra zimbramon[9509]: 9509:info: 2008-01-02 13:40:01, QUEUE: 7 4
Jan 2 13:40:02 zimbra zimbramon[9513]: 9513:info: 2008-01-02 13:40:01, DISK: zimbra.chapmans.co.tt: dev: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00, mp: /, tot: 228981, avail: 209546
Jan 2 13:40:02 zimbra zimbramon[9513]: 9513:info: 2008-01-02 13:40:01, DISK: zimbra.chapmans.co.tt: dev: /dev/mapper/nvidia_bibceebbp1, mp: /boot, tot: 99, avail: 78
Jan 2 13:40:06 zimbra zmmailboxdmgr[9799]: status requested
Jan 2 13:40:06 zimbra zmmailboxdmgr[9799]: status OK

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now any ideas on what i can do to get this fixeD? changing ISPs is not an answer.