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    Question [SOLVED] Options on moving from Exchange w/o access

    In looking through the forums I see that most admins are migrating from machines that they have physical and/or admin access to or most of their current users are using one form of Outlook to access their messages. I see that migration or importing under these circumstances is fairly straight forward using the tools and importers supplied by the Zimbra team.
    My company currently uses e-mail supplied from a vendor running Exchange 2007. Only a handful of my users use Outlook or Outlook Express (via POP3) to access their mail. Importing these should be no problem. All the rest use Outlook Web Access and therefore there is no .pst file to import for them.
    What are my options since I don't have access of any type to the Exchange server? I'm not sure how much help the Exchange admin will be since I'm taking more than a few dollars from his pocket!
    Sorry for both the length of the post and the noob question but I have not seen this scenario in the forums.

    Thanks in advance for any information... It's more than I had to start with!

    Michael

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    The easiest thing to do, if it's just email, is to use Thunderbird to connect to both server and drag'n'drop the mail from one server to the other. There is a minor blip, you'll need to login to the Zimbra server with '/tb' appended to the login username so that we work round a bug in Thunderbird that gets the dates wrong when it copies the mail.
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    Default Not knowing what I don't know yet...

    Bill,

    Thanks for the quick reply. Thunderbird worked fine but in testing I see that I need to figure out how to migrate the boxes from the Exchange box to mine. Too many messages and too many different folders and last but not least, severe variations in user abilities.

    Knowing less about Exchange than I do about Zimbra, I'm hoping I can have the e-mail boxes that I would like to keep (10 or so) posted to the vendors FTP site and access them that way. Would these be in .pst format? If so, I have a few ideas on how to get them onto the Zimbra server, but at this point all information is good information.

    I realize I should be asking the other admin but I'd like to know a little more before starting this conversation for reasons mentioned in my first post.

    Thanks again,

    Michael

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    I can't think why I suggested Thunderbird before rather than the Exchange Migration Wizard in Zimbra? The only proviso for that is that you'll need a Windows PC to run the wizard and have a copy of Outlook 2003 installed, you have some machines with Outlook installed don't you?
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    Thanks again!

    I misunderstood the way in which this tool ran. I thought it had to be run on the Exchange server. I have a few computers set up on XP and Outlook 2003.

    I have noticed that I may still have problems as the Exchange server is running Exchange 2007. Will this tool work on 2007, or should I wait for 5.0 before attempting. I of course would be "playing" with my mailbox first.

    Again, thanks for the quick reply!

    Michael

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    Yes, the migration wizard for Exchange 2007 would be a version 5 feature. There will be a beta (actually RC1) version of Zimbra 5 shortly that you could test it wit but GA for v5 is scheduled for November.
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    Default Append /tb to copy Thunderbird Mail to Zimbra?

    I should have read this post before I did this... I cannot login with the /tb appended to my login name. If I could I would go around the block again by moving them back out and back in again.

    Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix View Post
    The easiest thing to do, if it's just email, is to use Thunderbird to connect to both server and drag'n'drop the mail from one server to the other. There is a minor blip, you'll need to login to the Zimbra server with '/tb' appended to the login username so that we work round a bug in Thunderbird that gets the dates wrong when it copies the mail.

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    Sam,

    Thanks for the reply.

    When I start the migration tool and have a connection to the Exchange server, am I not at that time a "member" of that domain? We are changing domain names with the switch to Zimbra.

    During the set up of an exchange profile to the Exchange server, both the server name and my user name are both "underlined". I took that to mean I had a good connection with at least "log in" permissions. Am I wrong in this?

    When starting the tool I do get a "log into 'name of exchange server' " window that does accept my user name and password. Although I don't get much further (see above post), that's why the question of my permissions on the Exchange server.

    Having read in other posts that migrating from Exchange 2007 needed a newer migration tool than what is currently available. Iím trying to find out if that is the case for me too. If the newer tool is not yet available, Iíll need to come up with other solutions soon, as proposed migration and go live on Zimbra date is Oct 28th.

    Michael

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    Default It was late.... login/tb in Thunderbird worked

    It was late.. is my only excuse..

    I reconfigured my account settings in Thunderbird with the required LOGIN/tb switch and moved mail out and then back into Zimbra. Worked peachy, now I can mirgrate all my Thunderbird users. Thanks

    Related to this thread, other than more work involved, which method would be best for bringing in PST files from Outlook? Have Thunderbird convert them and bring them over from Thunderbird or use the Zimbra import tool. I have several users with some monster PST files.

    What I am asking is for some real world experience/results between the Zimbra import tool and Thunderbird's import tool and moving mail over from there.

    Thanks,

    Quote Originally Posted by mstreet View Post
    I should have read this post before I did this... I cannot login with the /tb appended to my login name. If I could I would go around the block again by moving them back out and back in again.

    Suggestions?
    Last edited by mstreet; 10-07-2007 at 11:30 AM.

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    mstreet,

    I have used the .pst import tool to migrate e-mail (personal) from my laptop into Zimbra and that worked fine.

    The migration issue I have is that 95% of my users (me included for this account) don't use Outlook or Thunderbird and I therefore have no file that I can import from their computer. The fix using T-Bird mentioned earlier in this post is not the easiest to use for me due to how my users have built their folders on the Exchange server. When I log into the Exchange server using T-Bird, I only see the Inbox and none of the other folders I have created.

    I think the problem I'm having now is due to the need of the latest migration tool which supports Exchange 2007. I think that I have the connection to the Exchange server set up correctly as I can log in and all my folders created on the server are visible and are synchronized correctly. But when using the current migration tool I can't see any files on the Exchange server to pull over.

    The time for making a decision is getting tight and I need to know if the migration problems I’m having will be solved with the new migration tool.

    Michael
    Last edited by Mr. B; 10-09-2007 at 09:21 PM.

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