Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 19

Thread: Veeam Backup

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    11
    Rep Power
    2

    Default Veeam Backup

    Has anyone used Veeam to backup Zimbra?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Caracas Venezuela
    Posts
    476
    Rep Power
    4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crandall348 View Post
    Has anyone used Veeam to backup Zimbra?
    Hi crandall348,

    Pls look at http://www.zimbra.com/forums/virtual...vironment.html

    ccelis.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    17
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Hi crandall348,

    I'm using Veeam Backup to backup the whole VM that runs ZCS. Do you have any specific questions/problems?

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    11
    Rep Power
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken76 View Post
    Hi crandall348,

    I'm using Veeam Backup to backup the whole VM that runs ZCS. Do you have any specific questions/problems?
    Do you have to stop Zimbra services when you backup the VM? I'm running Zimbra Open Source
    Last edited by crandall348; 10-31-2013 at 12:15 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    17
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crandall348 View Post
    Do you have to stop Zimbra services when you backup the VM? I'm running Zimbra Open Source
    I'm also running the Open Source edition and I'm backing up the whole VM without stopping Zimbra services. I'm even doing this during the day, when people are probably logged on, and doesn't seem to affect performance to a noticeable level and only takes about 10 minutes to run. Of course, my setup is not big, only about 30 accounts, so if you have a lot of emails stored and a lot of accesses, it might take longer and see a slowdown.

    Veeam is able to do consistent backups (I think it does a snapshot, backs that up and then merges that snapshot back), so if you're restoring one of those it would be like powering up a machine after a power failure. Research the problems one might encounter after an unexpected power failure to get an idea of how good/reliable those backups are and what to expect. Personally, I've had Zimbra servers lose power and had no problem upon power-up, but that only happened a handful of times, so ...
    Always test your backups!!! <- can't stress this enough

    But don't rely only on Veeam for backups. I also backup (just Zimbra) nightly, when I can afford to stop it. There are guides on the forums for that.

    Don't take my word as a guarantee. I have limited experience with either Zimbra and Veeam. (have started using Veeam a few months ago, and Zimbra a little more than a year ago)

    Hope this helps.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    11
    Rep Power
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken76 View Post
    I'm also running the Open Source edition and I'm backing up the whole VM without stopping Zimbra services. I'm even doing this during the day, when people are probably logged on, and doesn't seem to affect performance to a noticeable level and only takes about 10 minutes to run. Of course, my setup is not big, only about 30 accounts, so if you have a lot of emails stored and a lot of accesses, it might take longer and see a slowdown.

    Veeam is able to do consistent backups (I think it does a snapshot, backs that up and then merges that snapshot back), so if you're restoring one of those it would be like powering up a machine after a power failure. Research the problems one might encounter after an unexpected power failure to get an idea of how good/reliable those backups are and what to expect. Personally, I've had Zimbra servers lose power and had no problem upon power-up, but that only happened a handful of times, so ...
    Always test your backups!!! <- can't stress this enough

    But don't rely only on Veeam for backups. I also backup (just Zimbra) nightly, when I can afford to stop it. There are guides on the forums for that.

    Don't take my word as a guarantee. I have limited experience with either Zimbra and Veeam. (have started using Veeam a few months ago, and Zimbra a little more than a year ago)

    Hope this helps.
    Are you using the Veeam Free Backup Edition?

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Gatos, CA
    Posts
    138
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    We use Veeam to backup the system image of Zimbra. Would not recommend backing up the actual mail store (aka /opt) unless it's a smaller install. If you're a larger environment, you'd probably be better off sticking to the built-in Zimbra backup, then snapshotting the actual mail store at the SAN level.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    11
    Rep Power
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by danielfarrelly View Post
    We use Veeam to backup the system image of Zimbra. Would not recommend backing up the actual mail store (aka /opt) unless it's a smaller install. If you're a larger environment, you'd probably be better off sticking to the built-in Zimbra backup, then snapshotting the actual mail store at the SAN level.
    We have about 120 email users.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Los Gatos, CA
    Posts
    138
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by crandall348 View Post
    We have about 120 email users.
    How large is your mail db; more important, how large are the vmdk(s) comprising your mail store?

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    3
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    We recently deployed Veeam B&R v7, in replacement of eVault.

    Ours is backing up quite happily. The underlying application (Zimbra) should have no affect on your VM level backups, as long as you have enabled some sort of quiescence. Veeam does this by default. We have not enabled the application level quiescence, however.

    I recommend a combo-meal of zmbackup and entire VM backup. It depends on your restore situation...

    * User comes over and says they accidentally blew away tons of mail... just fire up zmbackup to bring back that one user's mailbox from last night's backups.
    * OS will not boot; everything is hosed... in comes Veeam for full VM restore on the fly.

    You should absolutely not rely on restoring a particular account's blob files, as this can be extremely messy. Continue running zmbackup, and for sanity, back up the backups (with Veeam or Bacula!) That way, just in the rare scenario in which your full VM restore bombs, you can still grab the Zimbra backup for nice and clean restore once you rebuild the box.

    Exchange has lots of third party tools to enable much more granular restore, but for us Zimbra users, this is what we got.

    Kudos to answers above as well.

    Cheers!

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-22-2011, 01:44 AM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-19-2011, 02:34 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 04-14-2010, 04:15 PM
  4. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-09-2009, 09:35 AM
  5. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-04-2008, 12:19 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •