AHhhhhhhhh ... ok I give up ... I've tried a few times and I always get the error "I/O error: certificate chain root is not a trusted Certificate Authority"

I've gotten the proper root.cer after borrowing a win machine to use the SSL chain tool, I've gone into my root certificates shown on my MotorolaQ (start->settings->security->certificates->Root) and it's in there ... but I still get the error from the J2ME client on my phone.

Does anyone have any insight??? does the app look somewhere else for the root certificate??? I know where I have it is supposed to work for active sync self signed cert stuff ... but so far no lucj with the j2ME client